Know What You Are Dealing With, Brantford.

I was going to write a series of posts on this anyway, on how to spot a real charity vs. those who “cloak themselves in good feelings.” However, I don’t think I could have put it any better than in a response to a comment on the original Yellow Bin post here.

Please, read carefully and ignore the spelling and grammar errors. The comment comes from Sarah G.

Okay, so you dont think that this kind od stuff doesnt happen to the E.C.C.A. bins is that what your trying to get at because come on boys this isnt kindergarden or preschool you have to be at least smart enough to realize that this is all one sided. I was brought up that their are two sides to every story and well we obviously only know the editors side of the story in turn looks liketo be speaking for the people who run the Kidney Foundation bins. E.C.C.A. is indeed a non-profit organization which in turn means that they are not a charity. There is in fact a distinct difference. Look it up with the Canada Revenue Agency and do your own research. You will infact find that this company is a legitimate organization. As you can clearly see from the pictures that the editor of this article as included states right on the front of the yellow bins that E.C.C.A. is a non profit organization. I am also sure that if you were to ask any if the gentleman that work for E.C.C.A. they could probably also inform you that at some point over there years of operation that their bins have also been a target some where along the lines. I know it may sound crazy but lets be honest here. Who is to say that the people who run the pick up for these particular bins from the Kidney Foundation didnt do this inorder to receive some attention. They realized that they need to try to do something drastic inorder to receive a higher volume in donations. Maybe they are upset that people would rather donate to the E.C.C.A. bins then to theirs. Yes I see the E.C.C.A. bins everywhere but come on people these bins may be all over the city but they are not an eye sore. They are always kept clean they are emptied on a regular basis. Who cares what time of day they are emptied so long. The fact that they are kept clean and well maintained shows a lot if citizens that the gentalman that runs this business for the city of Brantford and it surrounding area takes pride in his job and in this community. Yes maybe he put the bin on your business property and didnt ask you first but if he maintanes it then was the big deal really. It is ‘a 4 foot by 4 foot piece of property, probably unused, that these bins use up 9 times out of 10 times. Come on, if you cant see the eco-friendly side of this business rather than believing that you are the victims of a scam. The real scammers here are the CHARITY outfits such as the sally anne (salvation army) or how about canadian diabetes association (that would rather maintain their routes once a week, so your donations end up as waste because they’re soaking wet or scattered across parking lots) and companies such as goodwill for example. these charities keep the money right in their own greedy pockets, with volunteers to help, and over priced goods in their thrift stores. Not to mention you know that the items that they can not sell, that remain in circulation for extended periods of time from store to store until they too are loaded into a container right beside the others being shipped off to Africa or god knows where just the same as the rest. Believe it people it’s called economics. Oh and not to mention the CEO of good will has a 7 figure income. I know that E.C.C.A. does give back to the community. I also know that E.C.C.A give donations to Sick Kids Childrens hopsital as well as a could other places. Sick Kids was the main one that has stuck in my head as I have been there on many different occasions with members of my family. The employees of E.C.C.A. have kept up with their promise of regular and routine service, and prompt emergency cleanups if needed. You know all the lovey crap that some disgusting people seem to think is worth donating for example rotten couches or beds. One phone call and someone is their the same day to clean this filth up. In my opinion they do a great job of a filthy business. For godness sake folks, look past your own greedy pockets and think for a minute about the environmental impact that this business has developed. The gentleman that work for the E.C.C.A. organization are friendly, well kept individuals who if take the time to do their part for the community as well. They do not under any circumstances keep anything that they empty out if the bins it is against company policy as well as I am sure that they are aware that it is not worth liosing their jobs over. Is it really as bad as you are making it out to be? They are not scammers but working people too. Try working with them and you too will see for yourselves just how much of a good thing that this really is. Come on try it really. What do you have to loose?

And here’s my response.

Sarah, your response is about 15 times longer than the article. You are right, E.C.C.A. is not a charity. They do not have a donation number on their box. Again, right. I’ll tell you that I am not speaking for any charity, since I wrote the article. I speak as someone who observes and reports what I see.

E.C.C.A. may be a legitimate organization, but I’ll show you pictures where they claim you are donating, which cloaks as charity. They are trying to have it both ways “Look charitable without being a charity.” What percentage of the money raised by this group is going to actual charities and what percentage is going to owners, wages and management? As far as I’m concerned, if the percentage is not acceptable than they need not bother putting bins all over the city.

So lets get into that debate, about “unused spaces” in the city. First of all, it’s not YOUR right to place bins where ever you feel like. Do I have a right to put a “genzel.ca” sticker on every one of your bins? No cause it’s your property. Same goes for placing bins on other people’s property. Can I just place a box at your home as long as I keep it clean? Get real. And these big yellow bins are an eyesore. I actually consider them to be a blight in the parking lot.

Sarah, the Salvation Army, as well as the Kidney Foundation, or the Canadian Diabetes Association, have audited records which I can request AT ANY time. Can I get that from E.C.C.A? Can I even get on their website? No, no I cannot, so as far as I’m concerned the E.C.C.A. is giving the illusion of helping people out when essentially it is salvagers and scavengers scrounging for donations that would have otherwise gone to charity. You mean to tell me you are too lazy to call for a C.D.A. pickup or drive it to a charity on your own? Yes, that is exactly what you are telling me. By the way, tossing a few donations someone’s way does not a charity or even a good neighbour make. I could care less how much E.C.C.A. donated, they are still not a charity!

And lets get into the greedy pockets speech. How much does the head of E.C.C.A. make? I’ll never find out, cause I can’t see the audited records, even after asking for them Sarah. How much are the district managers making? Are they being paid by commission based on the bins they force on people? These are things I CAN find out from charities, I cannot find out from E.C.C.A. P.S. Goodwill states they are not a charity. Again, at least they are upfront.

As far as the E.C.C.A. being “nice people,” I’ve known a lot of nice people who work for the wrong cause. The road to hell was paved with best intentions. Sarah, unless I see some audited records, you are 100% wrong on this. They are gleaning parasites in this city stealing clothing intended for donations and charity. I’ve tried working with them, as someone seeking information. Guess what? Stonewalling me only shows me how much they have to hide.

Good Day. By the way “Sarah G” I’ll sign my full name to the comment.

Richard Robillard
Generation Zel! Radio

Brantford, know the difference between a charity, and a non-profit. Make the right choice.

7 thoughts on “Know What You Are Dealing With, Brantford.

  1. Hey Robbie Richard or whatever your name is,you know what you’re lazy piece of shit you know that has a very big mouth I don’t even know I’m wasting my time right now posting this comment because you don’t deserve it!obviously what you been told you don’t know how to use that information properly or use it is all for that matter I give you my number I submitted photos to you you said you’re going to append that article ???you Call yourself a reporter I hardly doubt it you’re nothing but a liar! A bold face liar! you never tried To work with me at all Mr. I’ve been stonewalled how many emails did I send you ? Or how about the numerous picture that I send you Showing my bins defaced right beside the kidney foundation bind also defaced. come on Mr. reporter try to inform the public on the truth rather than your own ignorant opinions because that’s all you’ve been reporting so far is your very own opinions nothing based on fact Mr. reporter boy grow up report the facts instead of your BS. you’ll never Cut in this industry reporting the way you do. i would almost think for a moment your Susan gamble son with reporting like that I’m sure you’re much better than she is ! I’m finished with your wasting of my time. why didn’t you call me I gave you my number it’s posted everywhere still I never heard from you are you scared I guess that’s how cowards operate anyways I’m done wasting my time with you and Susan Gamble until you people can start to produce articles That have substantial Facts rather than your own ignorant opinions , I’ve nothing more to say !your Little reporter boy Are a complete waste of skin. You’re a mighty big man hiding behind the radio or microphone or keyboard or whatever it is you’re a big man little boy! But you know what there’s still hope because we all have to grow up someday sooner or later you will too!! rest assured….. It’s time for you to grow up Robbie And live in the real world where adults are your peers Rather than other foolish children !and start reporting real facts about issues and start a real job Reporting the current events Effectively instead of your own Meandering thoughts. I guess everybody is entitled to their very own opinions or here’s my opinion of you you are a Very poor excuse for a reporter hey but then again that’s just my opinion Grow up

  2. Well, Mike — herein lies the rub. I’m not a reporter, nor have ever claimed to be. This was an Op-ed piece, not a news article. I stated my opinion, based on the facts I have been given. Your Google Plus photos, which you only emailed me a link to, were too small to use on the website.

    But lets get on to the fact that your first official response on this website is to go and be personal. Well Mike, if that is your best defense to what I said in my piece, than there isn’t much else to say.

    I asked specifically three times about E.C.C.A. Saturday of, Sunday after, Monday after; in emails to the address posted on your bins. It wasn’t until I sent an email demanding that if I don’t get a response, I would go ahead with the story, which was Monday, that I finally got your attention. And what 6, 8 hours afterward? Only after? Nonetheless, I still want to see audited records and to see how much of the money you gross from your bins actually goes into the hands of charity and charitable organizations. Can you at least do that Mike? Or are you going to keep throwing mud publicly?

    By the way, comparing me to a reporter that has been nominated for, or won, more than 15 Ontario Newspaper Awards is flattering, and I thank you for that, Mike.

  3. Well Rob Richards maybe you should read what I wrote you before and let it actually sink in. or is that too much for you to actually understand at one given time. You still make it out to be all one sided. Mike has stated to you that he has sent you pictures when his bins were hit by vandles and you ignored him. You are obviously picking what side of the story you are reporting on. I take it that you have never been told or just dont care to get all your facts straight. Sorry but if you dont have all your facts you shouldnt be doing a report about it. Logical really. I have already spread the word to many many people that this is all just a one sided story and told people what E.C.C.A. actually does and people have told me that from now on they are only going to give donations to E.C.C.A. If anything you may think that you are trying to downgrade the E.C.C.A non-profit organization but if anything now they are going to get more business. Everyone that I know and that I talk to has already agreed that they will only give to the E.C.C.A. yellow bins. And you can bet that if I see someone putting in to anothet bin when im around I will approach them and I will convince then to donate to the yellow E.C.C.A. bins instead.

  4. Sarah,

    First of all, my name is Richard Robillard. Hi! Now maybe you and Mike can greet me properly in the next comment.

    Maybe this is difficult; so let me make this very clear to you. I will break your comment down line by line.

    You are obviously picking what side of the story you are reporting on.

    As stated in two other comments as well as this post I am not a reporter, and I did not write a news story. It is an opinion piece.

    Sorry but if you dont have all your facts you shouldnt be doing a report about it.

    Fact is, E.C.C.A. does not have a charity number, and NO audited records. NONE! That is a fact! How much per dollar of donation goes into charity? Huh? Hello? am I making this clear enough yet?

    And you can bet that if I see someone putting in to anothet bin when im around I will approach them and I will convince then to donate to the yellow E.C.C.A. bins instead.

    So you are pressuring people to use your bins over anyone elses? THANK YOU SARAH. This is what I’ve been looking for. So this is a bin war? Is that what you are openly admitting to me right now? Sarah, let’s call a spade a spade. Part of the problem is the E.C.C.A. has not come clean on what it does with my donation; it practices negative-option bin dropping; it only moves the bin when threatened to do so. In fact, in one case I encountered, the store had to threaten you with chopping your bin to pieces before you would finally take it away. Is that someone who is doing business on the up and up? Absolutely not, in my opinion.

    And, as I stated many times now, this is my opinion. I have decided to share it. You’re allowed to disagree, but if I see any arm twisting or negative tactics in this city, be on the alert that I will be the first to “report it,” since you seem to think I am a reporter, and all.

  5. I agree with Robbie Robert Richards. I personally think it’s deceitful to ask for donations while under the guise of charity without actually being held accountable for going through with that charity. I immensely dislike that if I were to donate something the bright yellow bins that in no way am I guaranteed that it will end up in charity.

    That being said, I have no problem with a company asking for donations that they then sell for profit and donate some of that profit to a charity as long as they inform me of that completely. (I donate heavily to Value Village, who engages in a similar practice). Just don’t feed me shit and tell me it’s chocolate.

  6. Here is a rule that was posted in an article in the York Region website:

    A bin that is made of steel is real, if its made of wood – it’s no good!

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